May 21, 2017
Heather King is a writer, speaker, retreat leader, and former commentator on NPR’s All Things Considered (listen to Heather's commentaries here).
Her books include Parched: A Memoir; Redeemed: Stumbling Toward God, Marginal Sanity, and the Peace That Passes All Understanding, and Shirt of Flame: A year with St. Therese of Lisieux.
In part 2 of Michael's conversation with Heather, they discuss Shirt of Flame, including how St. Therese was a saint for our generation precisely because she "was so neurotic", an idea which might inspire hope for those of us wondering if the messiness and dysfunction of our own lives disqualifies us from our own saintly calling.
May 7, 2017
In Part 2 of my conversation with Deb Hirsch we discuss shame, why it’s so hard to talk about sexuality in the church, and what it means to bring grace into sexual shame.
Deb Hirsch is the author of Redeeming Sex: Naked Conversations About Sexuality and Spirituality. As a speaker, church leader, and writer she has led churches in both Australia and Los Angeles and is one of the founders of Forge Mission Training Network. She is the co-author (with Alan Hirsch) of Untamed: Reactivating a Missional Form of Discipleship, and her book Redeeming Sex reflects her own journey and attempts to bring new conversations about sexuality into the context of the church. Deb has been involved in social work, community development and as a trained counselor has worked in the field of sexuality for over twenty-five years. She and her husband live in community with others in Los Angeles.